Will Offensive Chanting give Heavenly life instead of Goloka Life?
“………… Devi dasi” asked like this:
“Hare Krishna prabhuji, Dandvat pranams to you. Hope you have recovered from illness and with the mercy of Lord Narsingdev, you are doing well now.
I have few doubts prabhuji. Please do not reveal my name while replying to these questions .
Thank you so much for doing this service such diligently for fallen souls like us. I have a question regarding chanting, I have already read your this post in this regard (https://krishnatoday.com/offensive-chanting-benefits/) but the question is that if I chant with offenses, will I accumulate punya and go to heavenly planets? My understanding was that anything related to Krishna is akarm and does not yield any good or bad karma but I heard from some devotees that offensive chanting does not give you bhakti but gives you punya (which I do not want to accumulate). Could you please help me understand this.
I have a second question related with this- even after chanting for years, I am still always fearful to lose my loved ones. I always feel what will happen if I have to live alone without them…during corona times we realized that anything can happen to anyone at anytime and so I am always worried with these negative thoughts. I have developed no attachment to Krishna even after chanting, hearing, getting devotee association and continue to have soo much attachment with my family members and thoughts of losing them immediately brings tears in my eyes.
Is all this happening because my chanting is offensive, my mind keeps wandering here and there while chanting and I dont even bring it back. How do I come out from these negative thoughts and try to love Krishna and be dependent on Krishna. Please help prabhuji.
Your insignificant and fallen servant, ( ——- Devi Dasi )”
REPLY:
This is an innocent but sincere and useful question.
You have been fed with some wrong or incomplete information by others.
Offensive Chanting is not a criminal mistake.
It is also a stage in Chanting.
(TEN OFFENSES AGAINST CHANTING THE HOLY NAME OF KRISHNA! READ HERE!)
This offensive stage is called Nama Aparath Stage.
Suddha Nama Japa Stage will come only stage by stage.
So, not to worry too much.
But, do not be stagnant without any improvement in chanting. Every time, evaluate whether you can chant with less offenses on that day.
Such alertness should always be there.
Nama Aparatha because of our carelessness is not a healthy one. Because, a devotee should not be careless in sadhanas.
If offenses happen in spite of your alertness, they are natural.
Now, the destination for offensive chanting.
Whether you chant purely or offensively, you will get Krishna.
(Avoiding offenses against Chanting the Holy Name of Krishna! Tips! READ HERE!)
If you chant without offenses, you will go back to Krishna even at the end of this birth.
Why?
Because, Pure chanting clears one’s karma and brings the mercy of the Lord.
What about offensive chanting?
He too will go back to Krishna, but in one or two more births.
That’s all.
Why?
Krishna Himself says that incomplete Sadhanas will give very good next birth in a rich or devotional family.
So, as said by Krishna Himelf, you will take one more birth as a chance to follow devotion still better and attain perfection.
In case you are unable to attain pure chanting, you will get another birth with still better environment.
Simple.
Of course, some karma will be pending because of impure chanting.
So, as a reward for the pending Good karma, you will be given some token period in the heavenly planets.
However, you need not hate those heavenly life. Krishna will not allow you to forget Him by engaging in enjoyments in the heavens.
(Will my offensive chanting benefit me in any way, or, punish me? READ HERE?)
Krishna will reward that heavenly life for some period, but will take you out of heavens and give another good birth in the earth itself again in which you can continue to fopllow offense-free chanting.
The Point is that krishna will not deny the chances for you to try to get Him. He will keep on giving better births to give you more and more chances TILL YOU FINALLY COME TO HIM.
Once you start doing sadhanas, Krishna will never leave your hands and He will be giving chances again and again till you come to Him.
This is not like University exams in which only three years are allowed to complete the graduation after the end of college studies.
Krishna will give unimited chances till you come to Him..
So, don’t worry. Offensive chanting gives Pure Chanting in future and then Krishna.
Nothing to worry. Be relieved.
(THREE STAGES OF ATTAINING PERFECTION IN CHANTING! READ HERE!)
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Next, about fearing to leave the loved ones.
This is natural in your young age.
I too was like that once.
But, advancement in age and devotional maturity will make you understand the reality of material relations and then you will start to live Only for Krishna.
Loving the relatives is not wrong.
The devotees should be merciful and kind.
But, Only the attachment, ie, expecting them to stay with you for ever (or) willing to stay with them for ever is wrong.
Because it is impossible.
You took this body for two parents. So, those two and their relatives became your relatives too.
When the bodies die, these relations also die.
(Detachment from Material Attachment through Devotee Association! READ HERE!)
So, do your duties for them, help them, but, do not expect them for ever.
I feel that I am qualified to give this advice because I behaved with extremity even in critical situations:
(i) I was preparing Posts and uploading them sitting near the dead body of my mother when she died.
Why?
Because I had done my duties for mother as sincerely as possible. So, no lamentations. Her time is over. She left. I have to continue my duties.
This is detachment.
(ii) I fell ill twice – in 2019 and 2023. I was in ICU. But, I did not stop this preaching service even for a day. I was updating from the ICU when I was under Oxygen.
Why?
Because, I felt as if I can’t live without serving Krishna. My real death is when I stop serving the Lord. Until I am able to type in any device, i will be serving the Lord in any media for a group mof devotees. If we have genuine spiritual desire, Krishna will help us.
Thus, When we lead a detached life, we will give importance to serve Krishna.
Just try for detachment by giving importance for Krishna in life. You too will feel so.
Hope you are clear now.
(How Population growth is possible if detachment is encouraged? READ HERE!)