Are Planets more Powerful than Krishna to affect His devotees too?
Two devotees had asked similar questions:
(1) A Girl devotee (Name hidden) asked like this:
“Prabuji Hare Krishna. Please hide my name. My question is that as you said you are an astrologer and recently i had review of my Birth kundli from our pandit & he was saying that you need to wear 5 carract American diamond silver ring in middle finger of any hand and give water to peepel tree on any friday and he said That Shukra is weak that’s why as i was getting difficulty in my Carrer a lot..My question is if i am devotee of lord krishna than does this all will effect me or any devotee like venus, mercury weak n all..Do i believe in all this is that my past karma is getting difficulty to me. Kindly reply me thanks a lot.”
(2) Another Girl devotee asked like this:
Hare Krishna prabhuji, I am really thankful for your post which helps me to know more about Krishna. I would like to ask one question that “is horoscope or fate is more powerful than lord krishna” one horoscoper said by seeing my horoscope that my parents will get bad name because of my behaviour . By hearing that I was very worried. I hope krishna will help me from this problem. Will you please explain that whether horoscope is more powerful than krishna.Thanks prabhuji, I think you are the best one who can explain this. Please disclose my name.
REPLY:
These devotees have given me another instance to give my views boldly! I have to be bold. Otherwise, I will be creating ‘over expectation’ in the minds of devotees and they will not grow to the stage of pure devotees.
I will again tell thousand times:
Unless a devotee becomes a PURE devotee without even the trace of material attachments and attached to Krishna, he will still have some influence of the planets.
There is no need for even a trace of doubt.
The Planets are the servants of Krishna and they perfectly function to implement the reactions of every person’s karma. They do not act against Krishna, but, implement His orders.
Krishna too does not interfere in their giving the karmic reactions to the people until they become pure devotees without material attachments.
(THE QUALITIES OF PURE DEVOTEES OF KRISHNA! READ HERE)
See, these things are not publicly discussed because many preachers may hesitate to share this reality to the newly coming devotees because they may feel as if the process is tough.
It is true, Pure devotees receive full & direct protection from Krishna.
Other devotees receive partial protection from Krishna. Though Krishna likes to take them completely, He finds that impossible at this moment because these devotees do not allow Him to embrace fully.
Krishna says that to whatever level a devotee surrender, He offers His mercy to that level. More surrender – more mercy. Less surrender – Limited mercy.
Unable to believe?
Let me further explain this:
Krishna says in Bhagavad Gita (4-11):
Consequently, Krsna is the object of everyone’s realization, and thus anyone and everyone is satisfied according to one’s desire to have Him. In the transcendental world also, Krsna reciprocates with His pure devotees in the transcendental attitude, just as the devotee wants Him. One devotee may want Krsna as supreme master, another as his personal friend, another as his son, and still another as his lover.
Krsna rewards all the devotees equally, according to their different intensities of love for Him.”
Now, it should be clear.
Are Planets more Powerful than Krishna to affect His Pure devotees too?
Why Krishna gives complete protection from the planets for Pure & fully surrendered devotees?
Because the Pure devotees do not have any desires for material things! Only when one has some desires for any material benefits, the planets can act on him. Because, the planets are meant to give material benefits. Only three houses out of 12 houses indicate the spiritual growth. Other 9 houses mostly deal with the material benefits. So, Pure devotees have no business with the planets. They will be directly followed by Krishna.
(PURITTY or LOVE – WHICH IS MORE IMPORTANT FOR DEVOTIONAL GROWTH? READ HERE?)
For example, Srila Prabhupada did all his achievements after facing three heart attacks.
Srila Prabhupada showed many symptoms of interacting with Krishna while finishing his lilas here. They have been documented and the disciples could not understand what he was indicating with those symptoms.
Since he was a pure devotee, he left when he felt that he need not continue here further. Considering his old age, Krishna Himself took Him because He does not like His pure devotees suffer with bad health again and again. Krishna gave more than a decade of life for Srila Prabhupada miraculously even after three heart attacks. It is very rare to live after three heart attacks because the heart’s muscles would have been severely affected. However, to help Srila Prabhupada to fulfil the desires of his spiritual master, Krishna extended his life time for more than a decade. Once he lad laid the foundation and basic path for his organization, Krishna took him back.
Since Srila Prabhupada knew this call from Krishna, He came back to Vrindavan and stopped eating and drinking with the purpose of going to perform his nitya lila with Krishna in Goloka Vrindavana.
Thus, Pure devotees, who live only for Krishna, will be helped by Krishna directly to come out of the control of the planets. They are always under the direct care of Krishna.
So, it is impossible for the Planets to be more Powerful than Krishna as they can’t affect Pure devotees.
(Why our problems continue even after initiation if guru accepts our karma? READ HERE!)
Ok. Why Krishna partially helps the other devotees?
Other devotees means, sathakas, ie, practitioners of bakthi.
That devotee may even be a manager of a temple. He may be a very senior devotee. He may have a big crowd. he may be appreciated by many devotees!
These things do not matter in devotion.
Age or position do not indicate one’s Purity.
If a devotee has a desire of becoming a leader, having a new model car to travel with his wife and children, wearing variety of clothes, adding more and more properties, expecting the association of spouse every night, etc., etc., he is still under maya atleast partially.
He may practice devotion popularly. But, still has material desires.
So, Krishna is in a position to help in our material needs and desires also. In fact, we are forcing Krishna to help in our material needs also.
So, Krishna will have to give permission for the planets to extend some material benefits to that devotee.
So, the planets will still have to act on that devotee.
If he desired a child to be a next chairman of his company, Krishna has to allow a certain planets to provide a child.
When he gets a child, he has to face the consequences of having that child.
So, ONLY WHEN WE HAVE NO MATERIAL DESIRES, WE CAN ESCAPE FROM THE PLANETS AND THEN KRISHNA TAKES FULL CHARGE OF US.
(Though ONE is following all Krishna Conscious rules, he has health and other problems. Why this happens? READ HERE!)
When we have some material desires, Krishna has to allow the planets to act on you.
No material benefit comes without side effects. Always keep in mind.
Though Krishna is ready to take us fully under His protection, we only are delaying by having some or many material desires.
This is my final view on this matter.
So, do not be proud that you are out of control of the planets just because you are chanting some rounds and worshiping Krishna.
(Why Krishna gives more problems to His devotees, but helping many non devotees Read HERE and HERE! )
Remember, you still have material desires.
Won’t Krishna help for other devotees?
Sure, He will help. But, we approach Him for material benefits also. So, He has to allow us in this material world for more period. When we desert those attachments, Krishna takes us fully under His control.
Krishna will just make your pains bearable for you. He will not totally interfere in the duties of the planets.
If He interferes directly, that devotee must be a Pure devotee or atleast a very serious devotee.
Did you understand now whether Planets are more Powerful than Krishna to affect His devotees also.
Practice devotion and always desire to become a pure devotee.
And, rich Parihars are not enough for any problem. Some astrologers unnecessarily recommend some costly Parihars. Until you have some material desires, you may do some simple Parihars. THIS POST may help you to decide on this matter!
So, Are Planets more Powerful than Krishna to affect His devotees too? No. It is because of some material desires we still have.
(How to become a pure devotee and attach with Krishna? READ HERE!)