Will Doshas (karma) affect initiated devotees also? Details!
Two devotees asked these questions on Nadi Dosha:
(1) “…………………..Das:
Hare Krishna Prji Dandwat Pranam, Prabhu ji I am going to marry a girl who is not so perfect in Bhakti but she’s interested & ready to follow Srila Prabhupada but we face a problem we both have middle nadi dosha (same nadi) and we match only 18/36 gunas. Please help and guide us we both are serious in relationship since ……… & now both want to do marriage. Your Aspiring Servant.
(2) A Girl devotee:
“Respected sir, I have a doubt regarding nadi dosha.. If both bride and groom have same rashi and nakshathra with antya nadi will nadi dosha affect??”
REPLY:
Rajju Match is related to the Longevity of marriage, Compatibility, Health and Projeny.
And, Nadi Match is related to the Mutual health compatibility/ Progeny / child birth.
When there are issues in their health and child birth, naturally, some issues arise between the couples.
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That is why, both Rajju and Nadi Matches are given importance in South Indian Astrology & North Indian Astrology respectively.
In my experience with many 100s of horoscopes, in most cases, doshas (karma) affect initiated devotees also unless they live only for serving the Lord following Vaishnava etiquettes related to grahasthas.
Rajju match is more important than Nadi match, though both are important.
In other words, In the horoscope matching, Rajju match is the most important and Nadi match is next important.
In South India, Rajju match is given more importance and Nadi comes next.
In North Indian practices, Nadi match is given priority and Rajju compatibility is judged using Guna milan Scores.
Whatever it may be, the point is, both Rajju and Nadi matches are given importance.
(PITRU DOSHA – CAUSES, EFFECTS, PARIHARS (REMEDIES) & FAQs! READ HERE!)
I will write separately about Rajju match in detail in another post.
In addition to reading this Post, Read my Previous Popular Post about Nadi dosha that has guided thousands of devotees in both scientific and spiritual angle. That post is HERE.
See, Initiation or Diksha means a commitment to a guru that we will follow the rules stipulated by the guru.
Just taking formal Initiation does not mean relief or suspension from karma, ie, doshas.
Only if we follow the (i) chanting, (ii) detachment from materialistic way of life, (iii) Regulative principles, (iv) developing attachment with Krishna, etc., we can get the suspension of karma and doshas.
(Naga Dosha (or) Rahu-Ketu Dosha (or) Sarpa Dosha – Details & Parihars! READ HERE!)
This suspension of karma/ doshas is applicable ONLY UNTIL YOU ARE FOLLOWING THE RULES STIPULATED BY YOUR GURU.
If an initiated devotee unfortunately falls down and start to involve in prohibitted acts, his suspended karma/ dosha will start to act again vigorously.
So, Diksha or initiation is not an unconditional free ticket to go to Vaikunta or Goloka. It is conditional.
“Conditional” means that Initiation should follow the adherence of the rules stipulated by the guru.
More violations – More revoke of karmic reactions.
That is why, I have been writing that one should evaluate himself/ herself before taking initiation whether he/ she can follow all the stipulated rules to the best. Then, take initiation.
(TRIPAD DOSHA – COMPLETE DETAILS & REMEDIES! READ HERE!)
Now, you yourself would have understood whether Doshas (karma) affect initiated devotees also!
If you follow the rules properly after initiation, you can expect that the effects of Rajju or Nadi or other doshas may become bearable with less effects.
“Bearable” means, you may be able to cross the issues caused by the doshas successfully with the strength of Guru and Krishna.
If the surrender level is Less or Nil, even the initiated devotees may face the effects of doshas.
That is why, there are many separations in the married life of initiated devotees also. In fact, it is more than the outside world.
So, do not take diksha without seriousness and do not think that just because you got guru, you escaped from the problems of life thru doshas that are due to our previous karma.
Even if one becomes a sanyasi, doshas or karma will affect them unless he truly follows sanyasa properly with true detachment from material way of life and serve the Lord with dedication.
(MANGAL / MANGLIC/ MANGALYA / MARS DOSHA IN MARRIAGE- COMPLETE DETAILS WITH SCIENTIFIC REASONS AND REMEDIES! READ HERE!)
However, if an initiated devotee truly desires to follow rules, but fails sometimes, he need not worry. That desire will be considered by Krishna and He will gradually make you follow the rules.
So, a devotee need not lose hope just because he/ she falls sometimes.
He / she should continue to DESIRE & AIM FOR PERFECTION for perfection. Krishna will gradually make him a Perfect devotee. It may take some time. That’s all.
So, the point is that, an initiated devotee can get suspension of karmic effects by sincerely following the rules stipulated by the initiating Guru.
(ARE PARIHARS / REMEDIES REALLY EFFECTIVE FOR DOSHAS IN HOROSCOPE? READ HERE!)
Willful fall downs may not reduce or stop karmic effects though one is initiated.
In actual practice, such willful violations may affect himself as well as his guru.
Hope you are now clear about whether the Doshas (karma) affect initiated devotees also.
TAIL PIECE ON NADI:
(1) If both the boy and Girl have Anthya Nadi dosha, they can marry.
(2) Adhi and middle Nadi doshas can be permitted ONLY IF the related planets are sufficiently strong to give bearability.
(3) If both the persons have strong lagna, seventh, eighth and fifth houses, and if they have three matches as strong, ie, Dhin match, Vedha match and Rajju matches are strong, Nadi match usually do not affect much. If these houses are weak, better to avoid marriage with that person in the absence of Nadi dosha match.
(4) If the lagna or lagna lord is / are weak, it is better to avoid the marriage if there is no Nadi match.
(5) If the boy and girl marry truly to serve the Lord together following grahastha etiquettes, Nadi dosha or any dosha need not be bothered. Because, Karma or doshas will act only if we live for ourselves and for our kiths and kins.
(Can devotees marry without matching horoscopes? READ HERE!)